The Guild

  • Sara Topping

    Best episode ever.

  • Genegx9

    2ND COMMENT LOSERS =)

  • http://killthegoblinsavetheworld.com hordemaster

    I will watch the new ep when it hits the web tomorrow, but last ep was more up to par, it’s probably safe to say the Guild hasn’t jumped the Shark yet.

  • Tev

    Great episode. All around great.

  • Fasmia

    I’m trying to be as into this season as I normally am, but I am getting a distinct “I’m over it” feel from Felicia Day that I just cannot shake loose. I don’t wanna say that I think that this is the last season… but… I wouldn’t be surprised if it were. (I do hope that I am wrong!)

    The problem is that it seems that the characters are turning into caricatures of themselves and just don’t feel like real people anymore. That’s what I loved about the first 4 seasons, that I could look at The Guild as an entirety and say, “Zaboo is X”, “Codex is Y”, “Robin is Aura”, (oops did I give a “real” name?), “Bladezz is every age 17 male I’ve gamed with”, “Vork is every 40 something guy I’ve gamed with”, “Tink is every loot whore I’ve gamed with” and “the Axis of Anarchy is every douchebag guild that tried to steal me from the guild I was with because I was so leet sauce as a healer, but I never joined because I am not much of a fan of douchebags”; anyway, the point is that the characters were all relatable to my entire gaming experience. I can’t say that this year because….

    …

    The lack of interaction between the guildmates is far too great. Everyone is off in their own little worlds, or broken off into “cliques”, and while this may be in line with what happens while at a convention, it has stripped away the dynamic that I, personally, loved.

    The only character that I am still enjoying on a consistent basis is Clara, which has a lot to do with Robin, the actress. Zaboo has been my favorite, but he’s different than in the previous seasons. I called it “growth” at first, but that’s not it. Even with that said, and while I hate to admit it, Zaboo as the Godfather/Mob Boss was really the only part of the show I laughed out loud at this episode. Even the revelation of Tink’s real name only got a chuckle. =/ That never ever EVAR happens! Something is off in the land of The Guild!

    Or maybe I need to have my meds adjusted. Who knows?! The red bunny in the green hat does, that’s who!

    Er…yea, so…. I am just going to go now…

    • Ops

      Zaboo has had a major plotline in the last 4 seasons. He can take a backseat for now, I think.
      These characters are far from “typical stereotype x”, and they never were. While all of them exhibit traits common in gaming communities, characters like Vork and Tink are way too alien to humanity to ever be considered normal. The compelling part about that is “how they got to be like that”. We’re seeing that unfold now. If you look at everything Vork has ever said, you can tie it back to social habits of people in society. He is the alien extreme of the marginalized, middle aged American man trying desperately to control what tiny remnants of his life remain, however undignified that makes him appear. Tink is a seemingly malicious, immoral demonspawn of a person that only grudgingly admits her own humanity. People do not get to be like that without some serious shit going down. I wouldn’t be surprised if this is where we get to find out about that shit.

      • Fasmia

        I’m not saying that Zaboo should have a major plot line, just that his character seems different to me than in the first 4 seasons.

        There are nuances about the characters that may not exist in all gamers, stereotypically, but I can still relate large parts of the things that they say and do to people I’ve gamed with.

        I still think that the issue, for me, is the lack of interaction between The Guild this season. I can say that there are parts of them that I can identify as “growth” and accept that would account for some change in their behavior, but it’s something more than that that is off for me. I can’t put my finger on it…

        I guess it could be because we never/rarely get to know our guild mates on very “intimate” levels irl, so I never really expected to know a lot of background on each individual character on the show. Besides, in the format that it is presented, in short webisodes, it is very difficult to elaborate on all that has made each character into the people that they are without taking away from the dynamics of the show, overall. It really almost feels like an entirely different show, the only thing that I can see tying it back to the previous seasons, outside of the characters themselves, is SS’s web cam diary.

        • Matt

          “we never/rarely get to know our guild mates on very “intimate” levels irl”

          It all depends on how big the social factor is in the game you play. If we take MMOs to actually include MUDs, I used to play on a social MUD server for 15 years. There I met a lot of the people from the server and ended up dating 3 of the girls from the game server (not at the same time; over a period of years :) ). All of them were wonderful girls, beautiful, educated and completely normal.

          Since The Knights of Good are a ‘local guild’ it was only a matter of time before they got to know each other well: socialize, date etc.

          • Fasmia

            LOL. Sooo glad that it wasn’t all at once. I have 3 good friends from my time gaming over the last 13 or so years, and I did play MUDS. The vast majority of the people I played with, I didn’t get that close to however. I’m not saying that these friendships DON’T develop, they do the longer you play with someone. Just that with the vast majority of the people that people tend to run across gaming, you don’t get all up in each others business like that. You may know what they do for a living or whatever, but you don’t know why it is they are extra aggressive while playing, or angry or irritable or goofy or needy or whatever. They just are.

    • ClaraGoggles

      They’re not cut off but still very much connected. Their stories mix together. It’s stuff that happens at a convention and it’s funny. I completely disagree that they feel like ‘fake’ characters now. They are consistently as real as they were in other seasons, perhaps more so. Of course, ‘OTT real’ as in ‘scary real’. If anything, they feel more real because we see many more people around them; they respond in a setting with many other people. And while they do get cut off from each other, this does not affect the story’s continuity.

      Also: the stereotypes are most certainly not true. They’re meant to be OTT simply because they are stereotypes blown out of proportion. I’ve met not only many 40 but even 55 year old guys who have a steady job and who are nothing like Vork and yet game. Many people today game and socialize online instead of watching dumb TV with stupid films and idiotic politicians lying 24/7. I am just past 30 myself and I make a lot of money and I also game (although I can’t stand WoW – sorry – so I play LOTRO); at the same time I am not bald, very good looking, and successfully in a good relationship. In fact, most often the older guys I met and who play are quite decent folk. It seems you were just unlucky in your server or choice of game:) Now, sure, I’ve met the druggies/psychs (Codex), the looties (Tink), the teenagers (Bladezz) and the fat sluts (Clara); but certainly not that often (except for the Bladezz types) and certainly not to this degree. Where I play, we have real-life musicians, poets, writers, Tolkien scholars and gifted role-players around. I don’t know what’s going on in WoW these days, but I know there are also many decent gamers there too, as I used to play it and had found some decent role-players who were quite educated.

      In many ways, this series presents the stereotypes and blows them out of proportion. If taken literally, it actually gives a bad name to gaming; but in a rather ironic way I think that Felicia is trying to mock that idea of a stereotype with this series. It’s certainly all very twisted. But having watched all seasons many times over, I do not feel there is a discontinuity with this season. In fact, I find it the best so far (possible exception is that wedding episode which was way too hilarious and still my all favorite).

      • Fasmia

        I probably should say that I meant “Every” as in, if you took all of those people and turned them into one person, they would be that way. lol. Of course not ALL of the players are going to be that off the rocker. I played with some very interesting people, however, and there are definitely a couple of gamers out there who aren’t THAT far from being Vork or Tink. lol. Perhaps it is just limited to my personal gaming experience. But, OF COURSE, they had to make them more interesting and over the top to be… well, interesting.

        And as I said, I understand that that is how it is at conventions, guilds aren’t going to be stuck to each others sides doing everything together, but the interaction between the characters is waaay down and the dynamics between them is what “I” am personally am drawn to most.

        One thing about me is that I am sometimes much more observant than others, it’s how I tend to predict the plot lines well before the end of whatever it is I am watching, no matter how many twists and turns are thrown at you to throw you off. (Which kind of sucks because I want to be surprised like everyone else, dangit!) I notice a lot of little things and perhaps that’s why it stands out so much to me and not so much to others, I don’t know. I DO know that I am not the only person out there who feels that things are off kilter this season as I’ve seen other comments about it.

        It’s not as if I am saying that I hate the show now, just that it hasn’t been as enjoyable for me as it has been in the past and the tone has thrown me off.

      • Fasmia

        I probably should say that I meant “Every” as in, if you took all of those people and turned them into one person, they would be that way. lol. Of course not ALL of the players are going to be that off the rocker. I played with some very interesting people, however, and there are definitely a couple of gamers out there who aren’t THAT far from being Vork or Tink. lol. Perhaps it is just limited to my personal gaming experience. But, OF COURSE, they had to make them more interesting and over the top to be… well, interesting.

        And as I said, I understand that that is how it is at conventions, guilds aren’t going to be stuck to each others sides doing everything together, but the interaction between the characters is waaay down and the dynamics between them is what “I” am personally am drawn to most.

        One thing about me is that I am sometimes much more observant than others, it’s how I tend to predict the plot lines well before the end of whatever it is I am watching, no matter how many twists and turns are thrown at you to throw you off. (Which kind of sucks because I want to be surprised like everyone else, dangit!) I notice a lot of little things and perhaps that’s why it stands out so much to me and not so much to others, I don’t know. I DO know that I am not the only person out there who feels that things are off kilter this season as I’ve seen other comments about it.

        It’s not as if I am saying that I hate the show now, just that it hasn’t been as enjoyable for me as it has been in the past and the tone has thrown me off.

      • Fasmia

        By the way, I totally disagree that Clara is a slut. lol wtf? She’s married. She’s just a bad mom and I have played with many a bad mom. Back when I was playing like INSANE 12 hour days, there were moms would played much more than that – but I have no kids and was much younger then.

        It seems maybe you take some kind of personal offense to the Vork comment. He’s not 30, by the way, I don’t know how old he is IRL, but on the show it seems he’s supposed to at least be late 30′s if not early 40′s. I’ve met some good people gaming too. You took that comment far too seriously. i thought the part about me being leet sauce would clue people to read that entire section more lightly… but it’s the interwebs and tone is hard to gauge unless you are using all kindsa smileys, and I don’t really do that when I post. lol.

        BTW’s, I only played WoW for a short time. I played LOTRO for awhile, but my main game was Dark Age of Camelot, and other Mythic games. :D

  • Nachostarkiller

    I m from chile ¿where i can see this episode ?

  • Claragoggle

    As the note above mentions: here but it “will come on the web on Thursday”. It’s not that complex :)

  • hikaricore

    Well, now it’s showing up on Bing, but the damn player won’t load. >.>

  • Deb

    I’m surprised that no ones mentioned Neil Gaiman. Oh my goodness, I would probably have been kicked out of the convention for trying to kidnap him.

  • http://www.facebook.com/gideonjamesabbott Gideon Abbott

    This isn’t loading on xbox live yet as of 8:18am CST. Soooooo looking forward to this one!

  • J Smoove

    Zaboo is starting to resemble Abed from Community.

    • http://www.facebook.com/joel.cleasby Joel Cleasby

      Zaboo did actually play Abed’s double in an episode of Community

  • Ptsaigwen

    When are you guys going to come out with another music video?

  • Redwic

    Did anyone else notice the cameo by the dog costumed person in this episode?
    The dog walks by while looking, behind Codex and Tink, during the beginning of the final segment.

    I hope something comes to light regarding that dog! Who is it?
    If it were following Clara, I would say Mr. Wiggly. If it were following Zaboo, I would say his mother. But Codex? Hmmm…

  • Alicitapalomita

    I can’t see the episode (it is a few hours away from Friday as I write this and it seems a lot of other people are having issues viewing it as well). I have a mac only no pc. I’ve never had an issue before viewing the episodes. Someone help, please? Myself and many other fans loveee this show so much and are wondering what no earth to do, how to be able to see the episode. Both mac and pc people.

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